Legislature(2001 - 2002)

03/15/2002 01:09 PM House RES

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SB 115-EXTEND BOARD OF STORAGE TANK ASSISTANCE                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[Contains discussion of SB 153]                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 2076                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK  announced that the  next order of  business would                                                               
be SENATE  BILL NO. 115,  "An Act extending the  termination date                                                               
of the Board of Storage Tank Assistance."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 2100                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER BRAKES,  Staff to Senator  Gene Therriault,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,  presented SB  115  on behalf  of  the Senate  Rules                                                               
Committee, which  had sponsored  the bill at  the request  of the                                                               
Joint Committee on  Legislative Budget and Audit.   She explained                                                               
that [SB 115] would extend  the [Board of Storage Tank Assistance                                                               
(BSTA)] for an additional two years,  from June 30, 2001, to June                                                               
30, 2003.  The board is  currently in its wind-down year and will                                                               
cease to exist  on June 30, 2002, if the  legislature chooses not                                                               
to extend it this year.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRAKES referred  to a legislative audit  released on December                                                               
6,  2000,  by the  [Joint  Committee  on Legislative  Budget  and                                                               
Audit],  performed under  legislative  oversight  statutes.   She                                                               
directed attention to page 11 of  the audit report and noted that                                                               
the  legislative  auditor lays  out  the  following audit  report                                                               
conclusions:  The board should  be reestablished, and it plays an                                                               
integral role  in promoting compliance throughout  the state with                                                               
federal  regulations related  to  specifications for  underground                                                               
storage  tanks  (UST).   Compliance  is  important  in  promoting                                                               
public  health in  that it  protects  underground drinking  water                                                               
supplies  from  pollution  and   provides  funding  necessary  to                                                               
remediate  pollution  brought  on   by  leaking  USTs  owned  and                                                               
operated by  private-sector interests.  As  an independent board,                                                               
BSTA  has been  instrumental  in mediating  disputes between  the                                                               
Department of  Environmental Conservation  (DEC) and  tank owners                                                               
and  operators.    The  board  has  enhanced  cooperation,  which                                                               
promotes compliance with governmental  regulations related to the                                                               
underground tanks.   Ms.  Brakes said there  were no  findings or                                                               
recommendations  made on  the audit.   However,  the auditor  did                                                               
recommend that BSTA be extended to June 2003.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 2239                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  BARNETT,   Executive  Director,   Board  of   Storage  Tank                                                               
Assistance,   told  the   committee  he   was  a   private-sector                                                               
contractor contracted to BSTA.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 2248                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN  asked Mr.  Barnett whether this  is "proper                                                               
form" when  it is past the  termination date to extend  the date,                                                               
or whether it has to be "reinstituted."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARNETT  answered that  BSTA is "sunsetted"  but is  still in                                                               
existence  and  doesn't terminate  until  June  [2002].   On  the                                                               
books, it  shows a sunset date  of June 30 [2002],  so the sunset                                                               
date has to be reestablished for 2003, which [SB 115] would do.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN said  he thought [the sunset  date] was June                                                               
2001, and that the [sunset] had already happened.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARNETT said [June 2001] was the original sunset date.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GREEN asked  if  [the original  sunset date]  was                                                               
extended to 2002.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARNETT  said there  is one year  wind-down period  after the                                                               
sunset date, and  [BSTA] is in that wind-down  period, as opposed                                                               
to its being a termination date.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 2318                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA asked the reason  for the extension.  She                                                               
also asked Mr.  Barnett if [BSTA] had planned  on remaining after                                                               
[the  proposed extension]  and whether  the  [extension] was  too                                                               
short or was the right amount of time.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARNETT  told Representative Kerttula [SB  115] was "somewhat                                                               
tied" to SB  153, which terminates the grant program  on June 30,                                                               
2004.  So, with a sunset date  of 2003 for BSTA and the wind-down                                                               
year, [BSTA] would essentially terminate  on [June 30, 2004].  He                                                               
said a loan  program would continue, and the need  for BSTA would                                                               
have to be  evaluated later; at this time, however,  BSTA and the                                                               
Alaskan underground tank owners  and operators are satisfied with                                                               
this [date].                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 2372                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEVENS asked whether  the entire annual operating                                                               
budget of $51,000 included travel and administrative costs.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARNETT answered that BSTA  was privatized in 1999 through SB
128, and  the only costs associated  with BSTA are for  travel of                                                               
the  board members  and  for  the sole  employee,  himself.   The                                                               
actual tank program costs are for  the loan program and the grant                                                               
program,  and  administration  of  that is  under  the  operating                                                               
budget through DEC.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK closed public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 2427                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FATE moved to report  SB 115 out of committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the  accompanying fiscal  notes.                                                               
There  being no  objection, SB  115 was  moved out  of the  House                                                               
Resources Standing Committee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SB 153-UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANK LOANS & PROGRAM                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Contains discussion of SB 115]                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 2460                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK  announced that the  next order of  business would                                                               
be  CS  FOR SENATE  BILL  NO.  153(FIN),  "An Act  replacing  the                                                               
storage tank  assistance fund with  the underground  storage tank                                                               
revolving loan  fund and  relating to  that revolving  loan fund;                                                               
repealing the  tank cleanup  program and  the tank  upgrading and                                                               
closure program; and providing for an effective date."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 2470                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ANNETTE  KREITZER, Staff  to Senator  Loren  Leman, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  presented  SB  153  on  behalf  of  Senator  Leman,                                                               
sponsor.    She  referred  to  the fiscal  note  on  SB  115  and                                                               
explained  that in  SB  153 there  is a  provision  "that in  the                                                               
revolving  loan fund  will come  the cost  for the  board."   The                                                               
programs  are  tied together,  and  as  long as  the  underground                                                               
storage  tank  (UST)  program  continues,  the  legislature  will                                                               
continue to  decide if it wants  to extend the board.   She said,                                                               
"Your conference  committee will have  to ratify the  fiscal note                                                               
with [SB]  115 with the  operating budget for DEC  [Department of                                                               
Environmental  Conservation], so  that's what's  going to  happen                                                               
with that $51,000 fiscal note."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KREITZER   mentioned  a   sectional  analysis   provided  to                                                               
committee members.  Since 1990,  she said, the state has assisted                                                               
small businesses  to conduct  risk assessment;  build containment                                                               
structures; upgrade, close,  or install new USTs;  and help clean                                                               
up contamination.   She said  these efforts have  protected water                                                               
and lands  from oil pollution.   Furthermore, over  $38.9 million                                                               
has been appropriated  since 1991 for this program,  which is why                                                               
there have  been so  many efforts to  streamline the  program and                                                               
get a "handle" on the cost.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KREITZER told  members, "One  of the  questions that  we get                                                               
[is]:   how are  applicants affected  by the  spill -  people who                                                               
have been waiting  for state money to upgrade and  close or clean                                                               
up  their  underground   storage  tank  site?"     She  said  all                                                               
applications for grant  assistance for any of  the programs under                                                               
[AS] 46.03  had to  have already  been in;  [the program]  is not                                                               
shutting people out,  but dealing with existing lists.   She said                                                               
the current Senate Resources Committee  chairman had sponsored SB
128.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. KREITZER offered the following  example of how the costs have                                                               
been [reduced]:  one of the  programs was the upgrade and closure                                                               
grant program,  which is phased  out completely  by SB 153.   Ms.                                                               
Kreitzer said the reason is because  prior to SB 128 in 1999, the                                                               
total  of  applications  for upgrade-and-closure  grants  was  $3                                                               
million; after that  legislation, the amount dropped  to about $1                                                               
million,  which  is  what  was  estimated  to  happen.    In  all                                                               
actuality,   the   cost    of   the   upgrade-and-closure   grant                                                               
applications,  with  all  of the  financial  limitations  on  the                                                               
program,  dropped  closer  to  about   $35,000.    She  said  the                                                               
legislature had  made [significant] progress in  streamlining the                                                               
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 2661                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  BARNETT,   Executive  Director,   Board  of   Storage  Tank                                                               
Assistance  (BSTA), told  the committee  he was  a private-sector                                                               
contractor employed  by BSTA.  He  said BSTA supports SB  153, an                                                               
excellent piece  of legislation.   It cleans  up the  statutes by                                                               
removing the upgrade-and-closure program in  its entirety, and it                                                               
sets  a determination  date for  the  grant program  of June  30,                                                               
2004, which also  coincides with the board's  sunset.  Currently,                                                               
there are  about 40 active  grants, and  it is estimated  most of                                                               
those will  be wrapped up  by that time.   This bill  provides an                                                               
effective  tool for  "prodding"  some of  the  applicants to  get                                                               
their  paperwork done  in a  timely manner,  which is  helpful to                                                               
BSTA.  Furthermore, SB 153  converts the existing loan program to                                                               
a revolving loan program.  He said  the hope is that it will help                                                               
make  the loan  program  self-sustaining  for future  remediation                                                               
costs for long-term  monitoring, and so forth,  which will extend                                                               
beyond 2004.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARNETT  noted that the  bill limits  who can get  loans from                                                               
the  program.   Currently, any  company, individual,  or business                                                               
that originally  applied for financial assistance  in the "window                                                               
of application" between  1990 and 1994 can get a  loan.  In 1999,                                                               
SB 128  set some thresholds  about who  could get grants  and who                                                               
could  get loans.   Consequently,  grants were  limited to  small                                                               
businesses,  but   loans  were   still  available   to  everyone,                                                               
regardless of  the size of  the corporation.   He said SB  153 is                                                               
important because it  sets a limit; the  large corporations could                                                               
not get loans from the state,  and given the current low interest                                                               
rates, certain  corporations could conceivably make  money off of                                                               
the program if  they were allowed to obtain loans.   There are 57                                                               
applicants or  entities that have expressed  interest in applying                                                               
for a  loan, he  noted, and  14 of  those are  large corporations                                                               
that [SB 153] would eliminate.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 2794                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARNETT  said [AS 46.03.422]  limits applicants for  loans to                                                               
those that don't meet the  federal self-insurability test, and it                                                               
references]  the federal  C.F.R. [Code  of Federal  Regulations].                                                               
He reiterated  that [SB 153] keeps  the money in the  smaller and                                                               
medium-sized  businesses for  loans, retains  the grant  program,                                                               
and  gives [BSTA]  time to  "wrap up"  the grants  for the  small                                                               
"mom, and pops" and small,  individual businesses.  He concluded,                                                               
"So  it's a  good  bill.   It's  something  that Senator  Leman's                                                               
office should be proud of.   And both the Alaska Underground Tank                                                               
Owners and Operators Association as  well as the Board of Storage                                                               
Tank Assistance urge passage of this bill."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 2827                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GREEN asked  Mr. Barnett  what the  federal limit                                                               
for self-insurability is.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARNETT said it  is a net worth of $10 million.   On the loan                                                               
list, it would eliminate a  good percentage of the applicants and                                                               
still leave  the moderate-sized companies  in there.   Also, they                                                               
do pay registration fees into the program.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK announced that public testimony was closed.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2985                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FATE  moved  to   report  CSSB  153(FIN)  out  of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
zero fiscal notes.   There being no objection,  CSSB 153(FIN) was                                                               
moved out of the House Resources Standing Committee.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

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